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QUIZ: Candlelight dinner *solved* PDF Print E-mail
Author: MMader
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Thursday, 10 December 2009 23:15

Case description: A call to a private apartment, 10th floor. The door is opened by an attractive, elegant woman. There is an unconscious man lying in a room, about 36 years old. Glasgow scale - 8, pale integuments, tachycardia 140/min, fast and weak pulse. Drops of sweat on the forehead. One thing drawing attention is a rectangular patch strapped to his sternum.

According to the woman they were eating dinner together and drinking wine. Later on the man went to the bathroom and afterwards he became pale, started to hyperventilate and fell from the chair on the floor.

The doctor recognizes the symptoms of a shock. We assume that the paramedics did their job flawlessly

What is this quiz about: we are looking for the CAUSE of such state. What are your suspicions? What do we look for, where?

 

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0 #1 adam240386 2009-12-11 00:14
Hmmmmm... this case is very laconic in my opinion. From the given facts we only know one thing.. The guy is having a shock. But a cause? There can be many, without more accurate data we can only speculate. Anything more about this patch? Was he suffering from any diseases? Any medical documentation about the patient? What did they have for dinner?

P.S. least i forget... How old was this woman? Was she a blond or a brunette? ;-)
 
 
0 #2 xray1815 2009-12-11 00:33
The patch could suggest that the guy is either quitting smoking (trans dermal nicotine analog) or he has a neoplasm (trans dermal analgesic). Since he left the bathroom before the incident we can suspect that he just changed his patch, resulting in hypersensitivit y or overdose. We can rule out trans dermal analgesic since we have no symptoms pointing to opiate poisoning. If we're talking about nicotine then similar symptoms could occur in a case where a person is using the therapy and smoking at the same time. But as adam has pointed out, these are just pure divagations.
 
 
0 #3 MMader 2009-12-11 00:36
-->P.S. least i forget... How old was this woman? Was she a blond or a brunette? ;-)

she was a REDHEAD! :-)

-->What did they have for dinner?

The food was ordered from a nearby restaurant.
Some salmon dish, difficult to say. We can see almonds, asparagus, some kind of sauce on the plate, white wine - semi-fortified



-->Anything more about this patch? Was he suffering from any diseases?

The woman states that her colleague was always strong and healthy, he does sports, has occasional cardiological visits

Good lead, the patch is the key. The guy doesn't smoke, never has. We can also exclude neoplasm pains. What other drugs can be administered in such a way?

There is no documentation because the apartment belongs to the woman. They are work colleagues



-->But as adam has pointed out, these are just pure divagations.

The whole point with this case is that we don't have any diagnostic to work with, but then again, lab tests which we would have done in the hospital would not shine much light on this. Its a bit of a detective work. The solution is right here in the flat, you have to figure out where to look.
 
 
0 #4 xray1815 2009-12-11 00:59
I'd look around the bathroom, try to find the package of this patch in the bin, perhaps it's there. Regarding other trans dermal drugs I can think of: hormonal anticonception (out of the question here i guess), rivastigmine, clonidine and hyoscine.
 
 
0 #5 adam240386 2009-12-11 01:30
I know!!

It's like this... The guy has nitroglycerin in that patch.. He went to the bathroom and took anyone of the phosphodiestera se type 5 inhibitors (e.g. Viagra) hoping for a ravishing evening with his work colleague. Both of those drugs dilate blood vessels and our 36 years old impotent dropped his blood pressure to the max :-)
Heh... and they always tell you to read the instructions or to consult with your doctor before taking any medication :D

But do admit that the my reasoning is worthy of his magnificence House MD ;-) ;-)
 
 
0 #6 Gonzo 2009-12-11 03:18
Was he on any medications? Some e.g. furazolidone are not to be mixed with food containing tyramine (like red wine for example)
 
 
0 #7 jamjestdina 2009-12-11 09:22
Perhaps we should remove the patch... there could be sternotomy mark beneath... and given the fact that he took the blue pill... We should quickly do an ECG and administer nitro under his tongue.. ;-)
To check whether he took Viagra... I'd look down there ;-)
 
 
0 #8 MMader 2009-12-11 10:34
Xray- Good idea, although you wouldn't find any pack after the patch, you'd find the solution: a small piece of package after a pill - marked "sildenafil" on the tattered silver wrapping.

Adam has hit the bullseye -
The poor fellow is suffering from a Prinzmetal's angina, which is treated with nitrates, hence the patch. Impotence can occur even around this age. Taking a blue pill: desperate measure with a poor finale.

Jamjestdina: Regarding your scenario - giving the patient nitrolingual will most likely result in a cardiac arrest.
Taking nitrates is an absolute contraindicatio n to taking sildenfil.

How do you like the case?
It's a shame it's been solved so quickly. I guess I gave out too many clues...
 
 
0 #9 jamjestdina 2009-12-11 10:52
My suspicion was hypothetic.. and the actions related to an eventual find of a post-op scar - no history :-) Plus the description of the patch wasn't very informative. Just looking for another approach to this case ;-) As others have said the bathroom should be plundered ;-) And he wouldn't get any nitro then :-))
 
 
0 #10 iqbal 2011-05-27 18:14
I think he ate something from which he have allergy .shock occur due to immunity disorder (mast cell present of the blood vessels they cause vasodilation .hypotension occur)
 
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